I touched on this a tiny bit in my constrained response through Tumblr’s answer thing, but I’ll elaborate in a reblog.
The issue is intractable! Moh, you believe based on faith that life begins at conception, whereas science and materialism disagree based on evidence. This is the core divide that drives the philosophical disagreement, and it is impossible to reconcile these positions.
But, as I think you recognize, that is only the beginning of it. There are issues wrapped up in this that have nothing to do with whether the child’s life is extant. In a lot of cases, I think, the theology is used to thinly mask a deep misogyny which, in the extremes, relegates the place of women to mere vessels for children.
That’s why it’s paramount to protect women’s rights in this issue. Giving ground to theological arguments is giving ground to people who would abuse them in order to continue treating women as second-class citizens. Obviously you are not party to this misogyny personally, but you have to acknowledge its existence behind some people’s theology.
Not to mention, in terms of the law, separation of church and state is still very much A Thing.
Edit: Another issue I’m having with your thoughts: You’re saying things like “survive outside of the womb” and so forth. I’m not sure you can have it both ways. Either life begins at conception or it only counts when it’s viable outside of a mother. And if you want to go with the latter, we could get into all of the different ways that’s problematic conceptually.
Doubledit: Whyyyy won’t the cut feature work right?!
I just woke up at three in the morning with two overwhelming thoughts in my head:
1. Fuck David Hasselhoff.
2. Bald eagles are a thing? I forgot bald eagles are a thing. How did I forget about bald eagles? Fuck bald eagles.
Dreams are weird. I have weird dreams. Doubleweird because dreams are normally weird.
I’m going to go get a glass of water and try to go back to sleep. Yes, Bea, I do have questions, but it’s not morning and I can’t think straight right now so you get a free pass on answering theas;lffdkj fuck it create post im done with this stupid talking thing its hard
I hate it when people stand around our desk just to chat for hours on end. It doesn’t really matter how interesting they are or what they’re talking about. I find it annoying regardless of content, even regardless of setting, because I hated it back in my restaurant job, too, and I can’t quite articulate why. This is the best I could come up with:
I get paid to be here all the time. What’s your excuse?
Am I just looking for things to be annoyed by, at this point?
See this is why I tell people that Kansas is backwards. This shit happens all the time.
At my high school, in Winfield, there was a huge protest/counter-protest thing about the Red Cross prohibiting gay people from donating blood. It very quickly devolved into an LGBT vs. bigots situation; I’m not entirely convinced it was ever anything but.
I wrote an editorial about it for my high school newspaper at the time. Others were already writing about the bigotry. My article concentrated on how nobody was actually having a dialogue about the issues they were so up in arms about; it was just yelling of slogans back and forth, wearing badges, and zero thought or exchange.
I guess my point is that as ridiculous as this situation is, it’s not isolated. I live surrounded by people who hold these views every day, in a state with government officials who vocally hate education and intellectualism (paired with consistent budget cuts every year to schools), with a governor who doesn’t believe in evolution. I know students who come from out of state, up north, or to the east or west, and they consistently are gobsmacked at the shit they hear people say and believe around them.
The state is shooting itself in the foot and dancing in celebration of it. Its citizens are intellectually sick, and at the same time running all of the intellect-doctors out of town.
And I just don’t know what I can do about it except flee. This is not a state I want to call home, and hasn’t been ever since I knew enough to look around and think about what I see.
ON THE OTHER HAND: I can’t help but suspect this has always been the case for the United States. Has cultural progress been pretty consistent in starting at the coasts and creeping in? Is Kansas doomed to be half-a-century behind the rest of the country?
I’d really like it if other people chimed in with their insight on this, and on the rest of what I’ve said here.
PS - In the first paragraph of his article, the author implies that interracial couples are a controversial issue. As another person commented in my presence, “What is he, a displaced time traveler?”
Re: Today's Gullibility Levels and Also This Trivia Book
I read an essay once called On Bullshit. The definition given for bullshit is basically “saying things to get what you want without regard to whether they’re true or false,” which is carefully contrasted with lying.
This book is a perfect example of bullshit. After tynic pointed out that the thing I posted was a hoax, I checked another “fact” and found that it actually was a fact, a real, no-irony-quotes fact. And the thing the book wants isn’t to inform me, it’s to make me laugh.
I kinda miscategorized it entirely when I first started reading it. On top of that, today I have been kind of… out of it. I dunno. Super sleepy and inattentive. It was a perfect storm of gullibility. Kind of embarrassing for someone who usually takes pride in skepticism.
Yes, I am sore and defensive about having been fooled into thinking that cats are scared by beards.
Anyway I am going to take a nap during my lunch hour and then enjoy this book like it’s supposed to be enjoyed instead of like it’s an actual reference.
Bea got me, among other wonderful things, a book full of trivia for Valentine’s Day.
This particular fact I had to check. And yes, it is entirely true no, it is a total hoax. On top of that, scientists have not been researching the effects of various hair arrangements on cats since the 1950’s.
Edited to correct embarrassing lack of critical thinking.
Okay, a little clarification about my last post (rage over latest Roance-Journal update), now that I’ve (poorly) slept and have calmed down some. Dropping it behind a cut. Feel free to skip it, I’m sure most of you will disagree.
<3 - She’s pretty dang smart and funny and a little scatterbrained and it’s adorable and all and I am always there for her but dang it if she doesn’t start making more of an effort to hang out when she’s on campus I am going to have to have words with her.
</3 - CROSS CONTOUR DRAWING
:) - Metabolism HYPER DRIVE GO
:( - insomnia noooooo
:P - A “friend” from last year dropped me as soon as her boyfriend was a student here. Nice to know you were lying about how you missed me and cared about me. I’m not really angry about this either, I guess. It’s really hard to make me angry. I’ve been told multiple times that I’m scary when I’m angry so I cut that shit out as much as possible.
# - What is this one, lies? Hm. I try to cut out the lying shit, too. Uuuuuhhh. I guess I kinda lie about “going to bed” all the time because usually I’m actually just trying really hard at sleepin’ and then giving up and getting back online.
* - Ugh secrets are the worst of the lot. I just… I just got NOTHIN’. I mean nothing except practical secrets like what I’m sending Bea for Valentine’s Day, but those are like… time-release knowledge more than secrets.
Okay after asking Bea for inspiration I have settled on illegal things as a substitute category for *. For me this automatically becomes sex anecdotes most of the time.
* - Sexed in public. Like, a lot. More than the thrill factor could possibly justify.
:) + :) = I like that I can enjoy most music and also that I don’t care about money more than it’s worth caring about!
:P - I hate it when people think they’re way better at something than they actually are, or think the thing they are doing is better than it is. See: Michael Terracciano/Dominic Deegan. It doesn’t piss me off so much as annoy me. I dunno I try not to get angry at things that don’t deserve it.
<3 - I can’t pretend to be a misanthrope if you people keep asking me about the people I like. Jeez! Okay, mystery friend, you’re goin’ places and doin’ things and that is fantastic! I’m happy for you, I really am! I just wish you’d call more often.
* - Augh secrets. It’s so hard to think of secrets. I keep so few of my own. Ummmm. Oh. Well this is depressing and isn’t even a secret so much as something most people don’t know but you will have to DWIsunglasses: My grandfather died over a year ago and I’m still grieving. I think this is because I was too scared to say goodbye. He was one room over and I just couldn’t do it.
I’m on the tail end of it, though, I think.
:) - Empathy and I are bros!
<3 - You’re supportive and super smart and funny and talented and caring and reasonable and likeohmygoshyoulovemeandiloveyou
(It took me forever to post this because I kept writing you full blown love letters and then deleting them because what the heck Ryan this is for tumblr.)
:) - I have achieved my own ideal as a moral and growing person. It’s a pretty great feeling. No lowered expectations, either. I SWEAR.
:( - I hate that I find it so difficult to stick with something even when I know it’s good for me, hell, even when I enjoy it.
<3 - He’s a great guy. He cares, and he loves, and he has dreams, even if he’s too wrapped up in his mild machismo to acknowledge his own feelings. I hope he gets everything he wants; he can, if he just works for it.
Edit: Re: Requests: You can request that I draw something and I will do so and post it as long as it’s not like, weird bullshit porn or something similarly uncomfortable. Just don’t expect anything good! I basically started at stick figures at the beginning of the semester.